Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Go out to la.
Comin from the city where no pity is.
[00:00:04] Speaker B: Shell.
[00:00:04] Speaker A: Shell. Somebody need to do a song for la.
[00:00:06] Speaker B: Straight up.
[00:00:13] Speaker A: Hello, my name is Elaine, and I'll
[00:00:16] Speaker B: be your tour guide through South Central Los Angeles.
[00:00:18] Speaker A: Look, count my dough and smoke up. I'm from California.
[00:00:22] Speaker B: Where you from?
[00:00:23] Speaker A: So what?
[00:00:24] Speaker B: I'm from California, California, California, California.
[00:00:29] Speaker A: This is Los Angeles.
[00:00:30] Speaker B: Well, where we going?
[00:00:31] Speaker A: West.
Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls.
[00:00:37] Speaker B: Oh, man, we.
We doing it already.
[00:00:41] Speaker A: All, I think 12 count. You should know by now, soon as coach put me in the game, I got to get as much minutes I can get in before I'm subbed out until the starters come back. I'm holding it down for you.
[00:00:52] Speaker B: There you go. There you go.
[00:00:53] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying? When I come off the bench, I want to drop my 15, 7 and 8 and I'm sitting back down.
[00:01:00] Speaker B: I gotta wait till you go to
[00:01:02] Speaker A: the pros, then take your spot.
[00:01:06] Speaker B: Sounds like a plan to me. That's how it goes.
[00:01:08] Speaker A: That's how it goes, people.
The voice that you hear on the other end. I know, I know. How did I do it? That check cleared.
It cleared.
It's a lot of money over there. And it comes from, yo, I get a fax. It's old school. That means it's old money.
You know what that means? Old Benjamins. I get a fax, I come in and say, hey, the money went through. And it came from South Carolina. I think it's gonna come from Atlanta, maybe even Jersey.
It came from the hometown. That's that old money. You know what I mean? So the voice that you gonna hear on this episode, a person that I consider a mentor, okay? A person that I look up to, a person that I listen to their show not just for entertainment, but it could.
[00:02:01] Speaker B: It.
[00:02:02] Speaker A: It can help modify a good day or even change around a not so good day. You know what I mean? Whether he's talking about something that's in his day to day life, or he's talking about sports, could be talking about music.
But whatever he talks about and how he talks about how he delivers his messages is something to always tap into, admire and respect. And that's 12. Cow clap, everybody. Don't make too much noise, but clap. How we doing, sir?
[00:02:35] Speaker B: Appreciate it, man. Appreciate those kind words. I need to. I need to get that. I need to get a dub of that and put it like on my intro. What's up?
[00:02:42] Speaker A: What's cracking, man? Listen, I came across a topic that I seen on TikTok, okay?
And I sent it to you, so. And I sent it to you. I hope I gave you enough time. I ain't even lying to you. I just got it today.
You know what I mean? So this is fresh off the press like there was no other person to do this show with but you because of the episodes that you have audience. If you have not, you might just been tuning into my show for the first time or. I know I've been gone lately, so you probably haven't heard my voice in a long time. I'm telling you right now, if you want to go listen to some.
If you want to go listen to a message, if you want to go listen to a story, if you want to create something in your head that comes from the. The descriptions of this man's podcast episodes, you gotta go listen. You have to go listen. I still want to be a part of those swimming pool events that he had that only certain amount of people got to do. You don't understand.
Okay. His cousin. Him and his cousin used to get in trouble all the time. All the time. Somebody had a gun and somebody used it when they wasn't supposed to.
[00:03:52] Speaker B: That's right.
[00:03:53] Speaker A: Okay. It's a lot going on in these episodes. I'm not going to tell you the title of them.
You have to go listen out the gate.
It could be therapeutic and it could just be simply this entertainment. Regardless, your dopamine is going to go up. I promise you. I promise you.
That's what it is.
So this particular topic, this young lady had a question just for the men.
And that question was, if someone gave you a box that had all the things that you have lost in the past, what would be the first thing that you will look for now?
I kind of tweaked it a little bit. Instead of just us finding one thing, let's just find two things.
Okay?
If you don't have two, that's fine if you just got one. Going by the rules, I totally understand.
But I do want to give people an insight on things that we may have had in the past that's near and dear to our heart. Maybe they can relate or maybe they gonna learn.
So 12 cow to that. What do you say?
[00:05:03] Speaker B: Now? The things that we lost, that doesn't include people, right?
[00:05:06] Speaker A: No, I mean. Cause that'd be too simple.
[00:05:09] Speaker B: Yeah. A person couldn't fit inside a box.
[00:05:11] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't want to get. I don't want to find any of my relatives in a box. Okay.
Outside the one that they gonna permanently be in that I'm not gonna see on the surface of the earth anymore. Okay.
[00:05:23] Speaker B: Yeah. I just wanted to clarify. No, that's a great question.
Yeah. I think for me, it was.
I had at one point in time, this is. And it had to be like.
I want to say 1991. I'm a little older than you. Bail it just a little bit. I got you by 10 years.
[00:05:43] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:05:44] Speaker B: So 1991, I was a senior in high school at Wilson High School in Florence, South Carolina. Right.
And I had a gold chain.
[00:05:54] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:05:55] Speaker B: And, man, listen, I'll be honest, Baila. I'm not even really. Outside of my wedding ring and my watch, I don't really do jewelry like that. Never really have. And I. And I think the reason why I don't do jewelry like that is because of this one thing, because I had a gold chain, and it was. It was a nice little herringbone chain. Now. Now, listen, Bayla, some of your audience might be your age. I don't.
And if they are, that's cool. I don't know if I can really describe how dope it was to have a herringbone chain in 1991. Cause, like, that would be the equivalent of having, like, 10 pair of Jordans, you know what I'm saying?
It was a status symbol.
Now, again, I'm not one who wears a lot of jewelry. I don't have. I never got my ears pierced. You know what I'm saying? Never got nose pierced, nothing like that.
Um, we did that in the 90s, but I didn't. Right. But that herringbone chain, man, it. It kind of set things off as far as, like, your gear. So, like, for me, you know, I played football at my high school, so when we were on Fridays, when we would have, you know.
You know, I don't know how y'.
[00:07:11] Speaker A: All.
[00:07:11] Speaker B: How y' all did at y' all schools, but we would wear on Fridays in high school, you know, you wear your jersey to the school, to school, and you wear it around.
And so, you know, now we. We did have a couple of corny dudes on the team that would come with a collared shirt. You can't wear a jersey over a collared shirt. You know what I'm saying? Like, that don't.
Come on, man. You got a polo on, and you got a jersey on top of your polo. Come on, man. What are we doing? You look corny. So I would rock, you know, a regular T shirt or whatever like that, and then throw the jersey over it. Bay. I wore number one in high school.
[00:07:46] Speaker A: There you go.
[00:07:48] Speaker B: I wore number one in high School. So I'm trying to. Trying to kind of paint you a picture of how I look. So I got the jersey on, the number one Wilson jersey, and I got that on some jeans. Always had a fresh pair of kicks. Oh, and if. And if I didn't have a fresh pair of kicks, Bill, I made sure I got the toothbrush out, and I cleaned them up real good. So I was going to be funky fresh. I was going to be fly, you know, with some sneakers. My sneakers always look clean. Always.
[00:08:15] Speaker A: Even if they were old.
[00:08:16] Speaker B: For sure.
[00:08:17] Speaker A: For sure.
[00:08:17] Speaker B: Always. And I was a Nike kid. I ain't really outside of, you know, eighth grade when I had some shell toes. That was it. I mean, but I was straight Nike the whole time. So I got the Nikes on, I got the jeans on, Got the. Got the Wilson jersey. And I had to set it off with the Herringbone chain. So the Herringbone, it wasn't that long, but it was long enough to where it's, like, sitting on top of the jersey. You know what I mean?
[00:08:40] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:08:40] Speaker B: And so it was just a really, really smooth look.
Now we weren't crazy. So you weren't gonna wear your chain? Cause, you know, I. Me and you, we watch you. We watch the NFL. You know, we see dudes with platinum chains on, iced out, you know, under their jerseys and stuff. I'm like, why would a groom. And now, granted, you could afford it. But I wouldn't be playing in the national football league with $100,000 chain around my neck. I'm just not doing that.
But, yeah, shout out to Crabtree, who got his chain pop.
But.
But anyway, so, yeah, so I would. I would rock that chain baler. And what's weird is I.
I know like, a couple of times it came off. And again, it's a herringbone. You can't miss it. You know, it'd be different if it was a small Figueroa change. Shout out to Fig.
[00:09:34] Speaker A: Shout out to Fig.
Shout out to hey, lady.
[00:09:39] Speaker B: Oh, man, listen, I got stories about Fig.
So anyway, like I was saying, so that chain, man, sitting on top of that jersey was just so cool. But one day, man, I came to school, I was rocking it. And what was weird was, girl I was dating at the time, she. You know, this was. This was like a little thing, I guess.
And I can't say that it was solely what we did in South Carolina, but this is what we did in South Carolina.
So she let me wear her class, you know, like to kind of claim me, and I claim her. So she let Me wear her class ring. And I put it around my, you know, my dope herringbone chain. And so I got the herringbone on. I got my girlfriend's class ring, and Baylor, I'm just chilling. And I'll never forget, I went.
I went to the car one day, and I'll never forget. It was a Thursday. I went to the car, you know, put my books in the car, got my other books out the car, walk back inside.
And somewhere between me going to the car, going to class, and then going to the locker room, the chain disappeared.
Chain and ring.
And it just so happened, man. I just. I'm just sitting in class. I'm in seventh period, and I went to touch my chest for no. No apparent reason. I went to touch my chest, and I didn't feel the herringbone.
And I'm like, wait, Wait a minute. And I'm like, I'm looking, and the herringbone is gone. And so I immediately get up, walk out of class.
Teacher.
[00:11:26] Speaker A: Hey, hey, Kyle, where you going? I'll be right back. There's no time for that. I need to go find my jewelry.
[00:11:31] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. And. And, you know, I went to a black high school, so, you know, you.
You drop a herringbone, you ain't gonna be on the ground for long.
[00:11:39] Speaker A: Nah. Nah.
[00:11:41] Speaker B: So I retraced my steps. I walked from, you know, class to my locker. Cause at first I'm thinking, okay, well, maybe I took it off in my locker. I mean, in the locker room. And I'm like, I didn't touch anything in the locker room, but, okay, let me go just double check. Went to the locker room, walked the straight. The same path that I would have walked from the car to the building.
No chain, no class ring. I ain't care about the class ring. I mean, of course I care, but, I mean, because that was my girl's class ring, But I was worried about that herringbone, man. And the herringbone was gone, and I lost it, man. I. To this day, I don't know where it is or where it was. I'm almost convinced somebody had to have seen me drop it and pick it up immediately, because the timeframe that passed between the time that I probably dropped it and the time that I was in class and discovered that it was no longer on me might have been 20 minutes, tops.
[00:12:39] Speaker A: So 20 minutes. That fast, it was gone. That fast, it was gone.
[00:12:45] Speaker B: And to this day, in 2026, I have never owned a chain since then.
Never.
[00:12:54] Speaker A: Now, I got a couple of questions, but one of them is, and I guess you kind of answered it, but you don't feel like you need to go get one.
Have you ever just thought about it, like, I might want to pull that trigger?
[00:13:13] Speaker B: Nah, because it just.
The nostalgia, the.
[00:13:16] Speaker A: Excuse me.
[00:13:17] Speaker B: Nostalgia of having the herringbone chain back in the day, it's.
It's gone. Like, I don't even know if people still wear herringbone chains anymore. But, you know, I. And I will say this much. I was tempted to get a chain when this was, like, the early 2000s when we was out. I was. I just moved here to Atlanta in 97, and we was outside. When I say we, Baylor, we were outside, I'm talking about Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. We was outside. Right.
And the big thing was the platinum chains. Everybody had platinum, and most people have silver chains, but, you know, in the club, it all looked the same, right?
[00:14:04] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:14:04] Speaker B: So I was tempted to get a silver chain just for my clubbing days, but never did. Never pulled a trigger on it, man. So that herringbone is gone, and I have never gotten another piece of jewelry as far as to wear around my neck. And I've told, you know, and I subsequently told, you know, girlfriends going forward and then my wife, don't buy me no chain.
[00:14:32] Speaker A: I can honestly tell you that I'm quite the opposite. A lot of things that I had back in the day or never had back in the day, I tried to.
I try to. I try to purchase it. You know, you mentioned the hermone.
These.
There's a couple of chains that I purchased now.
Are they real? Absolutely not.
As a matter of fact, the chain that I wear every day. And this has been every day since I bought it, which is probably. Oh, it has come up on a year. It actually passed a year. I've been wearing it for a year straight.
And that is this chain that I got from Ghana. And it's probably not worth more than about five or ten dollars, but it means so much more than that, you know, because it's the symbol and the logo, and it stands for only God.
[00:15:31] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:15:32] Speaker A: And I wanted to bring something, and I. Obviously, I bought a couple of other things back from the motherland, but this was the one thing where I was like, I wear this every day. And have I taken it before? Yes, but I take showers in this. I sleep in it. You know, this is. I just. I wear it every day. I wear it every day.
So I feel you. I feel you with that. So that'd be the first thing that you find in the box. And you, like, so you gonna rock it then because in. In. In today's world, you saying, look, don't buy me no jewelry. I don't want it. It's in the past. But if you find it in that box, are you throwing it on?
[00:16:08] Speaker B: Oh, hell yeah, for sure. No question.
I'm transporting. Once I put it on, I'm transporting right back to 1991. Again, I'm Tupac, and I get a round video. That's me.
[00:16:21] Speaker A: Now, look, you can't keep this particular item. And when I say that, I'm not talking about the chain. I'm talking about the ring that was a part of that chain. Are you shipping that bag to her, or are you just throwing that away? Because you're not even taking that inside the house.
[00:16:38] Speaker B: No, no, no, I am.
I'm reaching out and getting her address, and I'm sending that to her asap, because she.
And surprisingly, I didn't realize this, but she told me this, you know, later on. Like, her parents, like, wasn't even tripping. Like. Cause, you know, most parents are gonna be like. Cause back then, I think a class ring was, like, 250.
[00:17:02] Speaker A: Yeah, it was a big deal, and. Yeah, exactly. 250 and 91. That's a big deal. Okay. I'm just letting y' all know that now. Okay.
So, yeah, that's. I mean, well, you kind of. You kind of looked up on that one for them not to go off on you like that.
[00:17:20] Speaker B: Yeah, well, I mean, you know, it. At. At that point was done. Was done. And I. If I'm not mistaken, they ended up getting her another one. She wasn't tripping. She was just like. You know, she was like, it's. It's unfortunate that it happened.
[00:17:31] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:17:31] Speaker B: And I was like, yeah, I'm sorry. Like, you know, but. And that also taught me, too. Like, I really probably shouldn't have been wearing her ring anyway. But, you know, you. You know, you'll see in high school your little puppy love. Whatever, Whatever. You. You know. You know, you ain't thinking like that. So. Yeah, so, yeah, if. If I found that, I would definitely reach out and ship that to her immediately.
[00:17:54] Speaker A: Yeah. Shout out. Shout out to the jury.
Yeah. It puts that extra zaz on you when you walk out. There's nothing like wearing a herringbone with a black shirt, though, when you wear it with a black shirt. That's different. Yes. That's that gold popping off of that black nigga.
It's dope dealer.
[00:18:15] Speaker B: Oh. Oh, no doubt. Money.
[00:18:17] Speaker A: Money Mitch.
[00:18:18] Speaker B: I had.
I had a homeboy. I. I was never into Turtlenecks.
Turtlenecks. Just.
[00:18:25] Speaker A: Turtlenecks is crazy. Turtlenecks is crazy. I did have to wear a couple of them.
They crazy. Yeah.
[00:18:30] Speaker B: Turtlenecks are wild, right? Even for 91, turtlenecks is wild. But I had a homeboy, he would rock a turtleneck, and he put the herringbone outside the turtleneck. But it's a wild look to me.
[00:18:41] Speaker A: It's a wild look. But hear me out.
You go from. Let's just say, wearing a turtleneck. You had a six.
You put that chain on 7.57.
[00:18:53] Speaker B: Let's move you up a little bit.
[00:18:54] Speaker A: Yeah, you can move you up a little bit because now you the drug dealer that don't be in the streets.
You know what I mean? You don't want you. I can see it now. Turtleneck chain, high top, fade. I could see it.
[00:19:07] Speaker B: Oh, for sure.
[00:19:08] Speaker A: Backup dancers for Heavy D. I could see it.
[00:19:11] Speaker B: Yeah, all day long with the flannel shirt. Yeah, all day.
[00:19:15] Speaker A: Definitely all day long. Shout out to that. Shout out to that chain.
We remember you. Now I gotta get in that box. I gotta dig in that box. And this is a multimedia thing, you know, so it's kind of a cheat code. But I'm not.
I have to put all of them together.
Photos, yearbook, cassette tapes.
And the reason why I say that is because all of them holds my. It holds my history. It holds a part of my origin story. The stories that you hear on my podcast.
Everything was documented.
I would say 80%, 70. About 70%, because some stuff I ain't telling y', all, but 70% of the episodes I had about my past, whether it was, you know, elementary, middle school, high school, the college years, young adults, everything. Every. There was portions of those eras that was documented.
Whether it was by VHS tapes, pictures and yearbooks. And me, I give shout out to Ant. Forget that, yo.
[00:20:30] Speaker B: Shout out.
[00:20:31] Speaker A: I envy him because he does have.
He had the.
He had the sight, the future sight of just saying, I need to keep all of this stuff. I gotta be the one responsible for this. You know what I mean? And when I tell you 12 Cal, we got.
We got movies. I'm talking about homegrown. We was to be. Before. To be. We was damn near almost before the Internet. 12 Cal that I don't think a lot of. I don't think a lot of young people understand that a lot of stuff that they're doing, we was doing without the Internet. We just. We was doing stuff before the word upload.
[00:21:10] Speaker B: It was already done.
[00:21:11] Speaker A: Yeah, we. I had pictures and pictures mean A lot. To me, I'm a person that love pictures. Cause it captures the moment, right? And it also brings you back. You could look 12. Cal probably got a picture of him as a teenager. And the more and more you look at that picture, you look less at yourself and what was around you.
[00:21:30] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:21:31] Speaker A: You know what I mean? The yearbook that captures four years of my life.
You know what I'm saying? Talk to him.
[00:21:37] Speaker B: Talk to him.
[00:21:38] Speaker A: You know, three years in middle school. It changed once I got there. I remember, you know, middle school used to just be two grades, and then they changed it to three from sixth through eighth grade.
But, yeah, whether it was my elementary, middle school, or high school, I wish I still had those yearbooks, you know what I mean? And I wish I really had my high school one because I was the main guy who was over the media for the sports segment. Oh, wow. So all the pictures. All the pictures.
Well, for one, all the basketball and football pictures were not only taken by me, but they all made it. So all the homies that I'm been friends with for 20, 30 years, the reason why you see so many pictures of them in the yearbook, because you took them. Ta da.
I sabotaged the whole thing.
And I got into every game for free.
I'm talking about as an athlete. Basketball and football, we had some cats that play volleyball.
And then you got track, you got certain perks. But then, you know, when it came to some of those other sports and swimming team and baseball and stuff like that, you had to still pay your own ticket unless you was cool with the coaches and stuff like that. Well, when you're in the yearbook and you the main guy that's over the sports section, or you get into everything completely free, not even just the games. You get on the bus, you get in the locker rooms, the whole nine. Okay. Now, no, I did not take pictures of the girls. No, we had somebody else do that. That was a girl. Okay.
But yeah, I was in the locker room. I can go in the locker room. I can go in the basketball locker room. Because I didn't play my last season. I didn't play my. That freed up that extra spot for the yearbook for me to take. But I said, hey, if I can't play basketball, I'm gonna make sure the homies live. You know what I'm saying? And I wanted to take pictures. So if there's anything that I would get out of that box first is my memories.
[00:23:44] Speaker B: Yeah, that's great right there. That's great. I mean, hearing that, that, that, that Makes. That makes a lot of sense.
[00:23:50] Speaker A: I.
[00:23:51] Speaker B: It's funny that you say that because I have my senior, my, my, my, my yearbook for my senior year. I don't have any other years, but I got my senior year.
[00:24:01] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. And, and, and, and you know what? And that's, that's almost a blessing because we are.
When kids that's younger than us, I mean, you know, our kids growing up, they not. They're gonna realize how important that is later on in their life. You know, as we get older and much more mature, we like to rekindle, you know, classmates and see how they just doing, you know, is everything all right? We at a different stage in life also. Networking could be very important.
You know, people move all over the world and experience so many things. You might have went. You might have went to school with a cat that might have made it to the pros, you know what I'm saying? Or is, you know, in movies or TV shows or behind in the, behind the scenes. You never know. You never know. And it doesn't have to be a friend. It could just be somebody that you would. You've seen all four years in high school and never really talked to that much, you know.
[00:24:58] Speaker B: And you know. You know what's interesting too? You said tapes. It's funny, man, because if you had those tapes, I don't know where you gonna play em at, but at least you can say you got em.
[00:25:08] Speaker A: And that's where I respect. That's where I respect Ant. Because he comes with that. He comes with that knowledge of, hey. And he's not the only one. I've seen people, you know, document this stuff in a newer generation where it's like, no, I knew I had to buy an extra VCR or convert it over to a DVD in order for us to see this in the future.
My cousin, shout out to Jared. He was the one that actually put me up on.
He had highlight tapes, bro.
And I'm talking about. He had highlights of Deion Sanders, Michael Jordan, anybody that you could. He had dunk contests. He had high school dunk contests, college dunk contests. He had commercials.
He had certain key games, Lakers versus the Bulls, SuperSonics.
Like, he had all of this. He had college football games galore. He the one that taught me about Charles Woodson and, And what was the guy that went to. He wore number two, Dre Bly. Like, he was teaching me about all the. Cause he played cornerback. He was. That's why I have a soft spot for cornerbacks, because he was the one that was teaching me about this when I used to play college football games. And they had a creator feature. I used to just create him at cornerback all the time, you know what I'm saying? Because he the one that put me up on game about college football and stuff like that. I'm watching college. He had highlights of everything. All those old Gatorade, Nike, NBA, Reebok, all these classic commercials that they're starting to bring back out or resurface on YouTube. He had them all on tape.
All on tape.
[00:26:52] Speaker B: Wow. You taking me back, man.
[00:26:53] Speaker A: And I wish I had those highlight tapes. I wish I had those highlight tapes. I mean, we made a. We made a movie. We had a crew in high school called the Outlet Boys.
We made an Outlet movie.
It's a real movie.
[00:27:06] Speaker B: Outlet movie.
[00:27:07] Speaker A: And when I tell you this was made in the early. This was made in the early 2000s, man, maybe in like 2002, 2003 or something like that. In the early 2000s, bro. And it's classic. We got and one tapes. I'm not talking about the real and one players. We got motivated by the and one players. We was at St. Andrews Park. We was at so many parts, and we was recording. I had a camcorder that my mom bought. That camcorder went all across the Los Angeles County. We recorded ourselves playing basketball. Two, three o' clock in the morning. I'm sending the dangerous parks in la. But we had to go play basketball. We had. And we. We had dunk contests at 75th elementary School. They was dunk horse. They was like 8ft or something like that. And one of them was rims. Yeah. But we had classic games, dunk contests. Like, it was a thing. Everything that we seen on tv, we tried to recreate. We had a passion for a lot of this stuff. So that's why I say I wish I had that yearbook. Because when it came to the football section. How you say y' all wore y' all jerseys to school? Yeah. The homies did, too. They did.
That's the only day where you could wear your jersey. It don't matter what else you got. I mean, you gotta be fly. Don't give me. You gotta be fresh. What I'm saying is we lived in an era where a lot of kids, a lot of cats took a lot of pride in dressing. They used to match to the tee, you know what I'm saying? But you didn't have to on game day. You just made. You just had to have.
You just had to have your football jersey on.
Like, you Said jeans. We wore jeans, sweats. And you had to have some. You had to have. You had to have your kicks. You had to.
[00:28:52] Speaker B: Got to.
[00:28:53] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying? So it's like, I wanna. We had so much stuff documented, man. So much stuff documented. And it's all gone. All going. I'm talking about. We had so much footage, just raw footage of ourselves. I got footage of us in high school walking around in the hallways and stuff like that. And not only that, like, people are making money off of this type of content because people like to look towards the past. Because the 80s and the 90s was popping. I'm sorry. Any other era, y' all can step up. You know, if you niggas from the 1820s want to talk or from the 50s or something like that, I'm telling you, anybody that was born after Pac died, we don't want to hear shit what y' all gotta say. Because the world went to. After 9, 11 and after Kobe died, okay?
[00:29:39] Speaker B: So, man, listen.
[00:29:40] Speaker A: But everything before that, everything that was done in the 80s and the 90s, if you can get that, some of that documentation right there, is pure, is golden. Go. Like, even the restaurants back then, you go to Wendy's or McDonald's. Like, McDonald's was damn near like a. Like an amusement park to us.
[00:29:58] Speaker B: But you had the playground.
[00:29:59] Speaker A: You got the kids. Playground. You had the. You had the playground. They had the toys galore, nigga. Toys galore. The Happy Meal made us happy.
You understand?
We was going to McDonald's so much. So we can make sure we get every Flintstone cup, the different ones, you know what I'm saying? So it's like that nostalgia. I just wish I had all of that. All that media that I had right there. Cause that old media can turn into new media for the newer crowd. And they could see how we was living back then.
[00:30:32] Speaker B: Oh, man, listen.
What a time to be alive, as the kids say.
[00:30:36] Speaker A: What a time to be alive. And it was. And it was documented.
[00:30:39] Speaker B: And it was documented. It was documented. For sure. For sure.
[00:30:43] Speaker A: So what? You got to close it out.
All right.
[00:30:46] Speaker B: To close it out. I got. I actually have two things, so I'm actually going to come with three. Pause.
The first one is a pair of brown shades.
These were some really cool shades. I want to say this was maybe about six. No, probably about five years ago.
Five years ago, we. Me and the family, we went to.
We left Atlanta, we went to Savannah. See one of my wife's cousins, spend the Fourth of July in Savannah. So it was like, oh, let's go to the beach.
And so, you know, I'm somebody who grew up in South Carolina.
Myrtle beach is literally 45 minutes from my hometown of Florence.
So me going to the beach was something that we used to do all the time in the summertime.
You know, having moved to Atlanta in 1997, this is where I've been since then.
You know, obviously there's no beaches here in Atlanta. And thankfully, because if Atlanta had beaches, we'd be even more dangerous than what we already are.
That being said, you know, there is a beach in Savannah. So we go to the beach in Savannah and, you know, I'm just. It's 4th of July, bunch of people, and it's hot. I mean, again, it's Savannah. I don't know if you ever been to Savannah, Georgia, but it's hot.
It's at least 95 degrees outside.
And so we making our way to the beach. So, you know, we're out there. I said, let me put my shades on. Now here's the thing, Bella. I don't wear, I don't buy expensive shades. Any shades that, any pictures. You see me with shades on, my shades never cost more than $24.
Never.
I buy my shades from the gas stations. I don't care about Ray Ban, I don't care about Chanel, I don't care about Prada, I don't care about Gucci. I don't care about none of that stuff. Because the purpose of shades are, is to screen your eyes. And here, particularly in Georgia in the summert, in South Carolina as well, in the summertime, it's so hot.
You really should have protection on for your eyes, you know, not to mention if you walking around on the beach, you know, if you have a wandering eye, your shades can kind of protect your eyes.
[00:33:08] Speaker A: That's a fact. That's a fact.
[00:33:10] Speaker B: Protect you from getting slapped if you have a wandering eye. If you have a wandering eye. I don't, but I mean, I'm just saying.
So long story short, we decide, you know, we found a little spot, the beach was packed. We get out there, man, okay. Hey, my daughter Skylar said, daddy, let's get in the water. Let's catch some of these waves.
And so we're just jumping in, you know, as the waves are coming, we just jumping and say, these aren't big waves. It's nice little size waves or whatever. Just playing in the water. Everybody's having a good time. I, it's, I, I am.
I know that my shades are on, but I'M not really paying attention.
And so the waves are coming. You know, we. We're just standing there talking, me and my wife and Skylar just standing there talking.
And all of a sudden, out of nowhere, comes this big. Now my back is turned to the wave, and all I hear Skylar say was, here comes the big one, Daddy. And I turn to my right, and as I'm turning, this wave comes and boom. Smacks me upside the head, my whole body to the point where I stumble. And as I stumble, my brown shades take a tumble into the Atlantic Ocean.
[00:34:22] Speaker A: It's over.
That is fish food.
[00:34:27] Speaker B: I reached down immediately.
I reached down immediately and I grabbed them.
At least I thought I grabbed them, but what I grabbed was some seaweed.
[00:34:38] Speaker A: Seaweed. Yeah.
Yeah. It's over. It's over.
[00:34:42] Speaker B: Shade's gone. And, folks, this isn't.
This isn't the clear, you know, water off the coast of Destin, Florida. This is Savannah, Georgia. You in the Atlantic Ocean. Ain't no clear water. You in the water, but it ain't clear.
[00:34:58] Speaker A: It ain't clear. Yeah.
[00:35:00] Speaker B: So them shades is gone. So I have no idea. So that, man. And those shades cost me $22, man.
[00:35:10] Speaker A: I was there.
[00:35:11] Speaker B: I was so upset, man. $22 down the drain.
And I had to stand on the beach, you know, the rest of the day, you know, with that sun just kind of. And. And, you know, it. It prevents you, obviously, when you have on shades, prevents you from squinting. Yeah, So I. I mean, I. Yeah, I was squinting like a mug, man, because I couldn't. Not that I can't see. I could see fine, but it's just. It's just the idea of it, man. So. So that was. That was.
That was unfortunate. And my. My last. My. At least my third one.
Okay, I'm gonna tell this story without telling this story.
They're one of my homies, one of. One of my boys. My partner's from my crew.
He got married in, I don't know, 2000.
I got married in 2000. He got married, I guess, 2002, somewhere around there.
Before he got married, we fellas, we decided to throw a bachelor party for him, right?
We had this event space, and, you know, we're having this bachelor party. We had. We had some shoe models come through because they were, you know, there to model their shoes. That's all they were doing. They didn't have any clothes on, but they. They were modeling shoes at the time that they were in the room.
And somebody in the crew had a handheld camcorder.
There is a Tape from the events of that night. Oh, I have no idea where that tape is.
[00:36:42] Speaker A: You better hope that's an alley.
[00:36:45] Speaker B: And here's the thing.
Remember that song where Jeezy said, I remember nights. I don't remember nights.
That was one of them.
[00:36:55] Speaker A: I don't remember nights.
[00:36:57] Speaker B: I don't remember. I don't remember any.
I remember being there.
And I remember we were drinking Incredible Hulks, okay?
And we had a good time.
And I remember talking to the. Talking to the cameraman and like, narrating what was going on, but I don't know what. Now, full disclosure, folks, nothing happened.
I can assure you that nothing happened.
But I don't know what I did that night. I don't.
But I know I did nothing.
[00:37:34] Speaker A: Yeah, well, I mean, it's just one of those things where, you know, nothing crazy happened, but you still had a time of your life and it's documented, but we just don't know where it's at. And you don't remember and I don't remember.
[00:37:50] Speaker B: And what's funny is when I asked the homies, they always say the same thing, man, you was wilding.
[00:37:56] Speaker A: See, and that's what that documentation is there for.
[00:38:00] Speaker B: That's all they keep saying to this day, Baylor. They will tell you. If I called any of them right now, they will say, yo, KDOT was wilding that night.
[00:38:09] Speaker A: That's crazy. They will tell you. And it's footage like that. We need.
[00:38:13] Speaker B: We need.
[00:38:14] Speaker A: I need that at 43.
[00:38:16] Speaker B: I want to see it. Yeah, exactly. I just want to see it. Just to see what I was doing.
I know I didn't do nothing crazy.
[00:38:22] Speaker A: 12 count. You can send that to me at 3 o' clock in the morning, I'm going to lay on my couch and I'm like, this nigga crazy, bro.
[00:38:31] Speaker B: I don't know, man. We. All I. All I know is we had. I had a good time.
[00:38:35] Speaker A: Yeah, we was laughing.
[00:38:37] Speaker B: I just remember laughing. And. And we was drinking.
And that's. That's all I remember. I don't remember any. And when my boys tell these stories, the story sounds so grandiose and everything, but I don't remember it. And they're like, man, Kate, I remember you did such. And such. I was like, man, if you said I did it, I did it.
[00:38:53] Speaker A: That incredible hoax that was hypnotic in Hennessy, right?
[00:38:56] Speaker B: Hypnotic in Hennessy, man. Hypnotic in Hennessy. I mean, and I drank it straight. Didn't throw up or nothing like that.
[00:39:03] Speaker A: And you're not a drinker.
[00:39:04] Speaker B: No, exactly. I'm Not a drinker.
[00:39:07] Speaker A: That's why we need that footage.
That's why we need that footage. Because he's not a drinker, people.
I'm a social drinker. I don't drink either. I drink socially and I don't drink.
I drink wine, sparkling wine, and just wine. I don't drink nothing else, really. Outside, I might take a shot here and there, but I do not like alcohol. I do not like the taste of alcohol or anything. I've gotten used to and accustomed to drinking wine and stuff like that. But in Bel Air, I love the. You know, the sparkling wines is. Is cool, but. Oh, yeah, for sure, I don't like them. But I will drink them with my wife or at a. At a social event. But outside, you know, on a Friday night, I'm not drinking. You know what I'm saying? No. And I. I know I drink more than 12 cow, by the way he talks about not drinking alcohol. I know I drink more than him. You know what I mean? So, you know, 12 cow. 12. Count off the incredible. And it's the Incredible Hulk, though. The nickname goes with the drink. Just to let you, you know, let y' all in on something. They call it that for a certain reason. Okay.
[00:40:14] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:40:16] Speaker A: Okay. All right. All right.
I'm finished. Minds up with the second and the third one. And one of my. Another one is from my childhood is the.
From 92, the talk boy. The Talk Boy device. That was Home Alone 2. I thought that was the best invention ever.
I don't know what happened to it.
Somebody stole it. I'm convinced somebody stole it. I'm sad I never got another one.
And I love that toy. But the one. The most recent one, this was maybe about.
I want to say about a. Maybe a year. Maybe close to two years ago, me and Marcy was in the mall, and it was around Christmas time, so it had to be about two years ago.
And we was just doing a little shopping, and we was also doing shopping for ourselves, and I went to.
We went to a shoe. We went to one of those shoe stores or whatever, and I immediately. If I don't see no shoes in there that I like, which I don't normally find any shoes that I like in the store, I go straight to the hats, and I go straight for my team hats. I'm either looking for a Raider hat or I'm looking for a Laker hat or a Dodger hat. Those are the top three hats that I'm looking for.
[00:41:37] Speaker B: Not the Seattle hat. Not the Houston Texans hat.
[00:41:40] Speaker A: No, we don't need we not wearing none of those. Shout out to those.
[00:41:43] Speaker B: I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah. Shout out.
[00:41:45] Speaker A: Shout out to those. But there's just not, you know.
Yeah, no, no, no, no. We're quite okay with those.
But I, I was looking for a Laker hat and I found one. And I always liked that Laker has, has extra stuff on it, not just the regular ones. This one had the palm tree and it had some other stuff involved. It was, it was one of our city themed laker hats. It was Y with the, it was yellow with the Laker logo, but it also had like the palm trees and stuff and stuff going on.
Real South Central aesthetic stuff.
And I remember putting a hat on the counter. I remember the lady ringing it up and putting it in a bag. And I remember $50 going down the drain.
Because once I walked out of that store, I was convinced that the hat didn't come with me.
And when I came back, when we came back to the store, I called and I came up there and I said I bought a hat from here. And I don't think, I think I left the bag on the counter. I don't remember if I left the bag. I just know once I walked out of that store, I don't remember if we continued shopping or not.
But I do know once we got home, I was looking for the hat. Cause I was gonna go straight to the mirror and I just couldn't find it. Damn. And until this day, I don't know if I dropped it in a store.
[00:43:16] Speaker B: It never even made it home.
[00:43:17] Speaker A: It never made it home, it never made it to the car, it never made it outta that mall unless somebody else found it.
And that was the same, that was the same day that me and Marcy kinda saved his boy from being lost.
This little two year old boy was walking around and he looked lost. As a matter of fact, that we found a little boy walking out of the shoe store where I supposedly had bought my hat.
So he was walking around and he looked lost and we grabbed his hand. We was a little timid at first. He was a little Hispanic kid, 2 years old. You can't understand it.
First of all, he's Hispanic, so he wasn't talking English, but he wasn't talking, he wasn't talking English, period.
He wasn't talking proper Spanish. He was just happy. He left his parents. We went into Old Navy. I don't think we found anything. And then we left, we seen him, we grabbed his hand, we came back to Old Navy and we let one of the clerks know.
And we was. We was asking the people in the, you know, in the middle of the mall if they knew and stuff like that.
The little boy literally wandered off and his dad came running. We seen his dad come running out of Old Navy yelling his name out, crying.
And when he looked at us and we. I had his hand and he came and he wanted. He tried to hug the life out of me because he. Because he thought. He thought he had. Losing your two year old child at a mall during Christmas time, probably one of the scariest things ever, but.
[00:45:07] Speaker B: And not being able to. Did he speak English?
[00:45:10] Speaker A: No, but you can hear. He knew what thank you was. He knew what thank you was.
Gracias. I see him up. But he was crying, though. You can tell. His heart was gone. His heart was out of his chest. He was crying.
But that. And the reason why I tied that story to the hat story is because my hat was probably gone before we found that boy, you know what I mean?
And Old Navy and that shoe store is probably like two or three stores in between that store, you know, and. Yeah, I missed that. And you can ask Marcy. I had talked. I'm still talking about it, but for a whole year straight, I was like, I want my Laker hat.
It got to the point where. Look how you felt about those glasses and that inheritance bone.
I damn near wanted to call them and like, yo, y' all need to check the footage.
Don't check the footage.
[00:46:10] Speaker B: I know, right?
[00:46:11] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying? And you want to talk about $50 going down the drain.
44 plus tax.
[00:46:18] Speaker B: Damn.
[00:46:18] Speaker A: You know what I'm saying? So it was like I was. I was. I was hot. And I still want the hat.
[00:46:23] Speaker B: I don't blame you. I would, too.
[00:46:25] Speaker A: You know what I mean? So, yeah, those are, you know, the, the hat, the, The. The. The. The talker boy. And just let me get, you know, my.
Let me go get my footage from the. From the late 90s, early 2000s. I need that footage, man.
Wow.
[00:46:43] Speaker B: Yeah, man, I feel the same way. I feel the same way. That, man, just talking about this has brought back a lot of memories, man. But, yeah, it's.
Yeah, I. I think more than anything, I want that tape.
[00:46:56] Speaker A: Oh, I just want to see that same. Yeah, see, now yours is different from mine because I remember everything that was on the tapes that recorded from the basketball to the movie that we created and everything else that's on there.
But see, with your tape is different because you got footage that is unreleased.
[00:47:16] Speaker B: Yes, unreleased.
[00:47:17] Speaker A: That's unreleased.
[00:47:18] Speaker B: But you know what's interesting, though, even in you saying that with your boy having all that stuff. I have currently right now, VHS tapes of, like, the Finals when the Bulls played the Lakers.
I have tapes, VHS tapes of Allen Iverson, who was one of my favorite basketball players. And I told myself, like, yo, I'm going to take these games of Bubba Chuck and, you know, show him to my son Deion, who was born in 99. So, you know, he was just a baby when Iverson was in his prime.
And I think by the time Deion got old enough to watch the tapes, we ain't had nothing to watch him on because we moved from, you know, VHS tapes to what, CDs and DVDs and then.
And then Blu Ray, so. And I never. I still have those tapes, man, in a closet in my house. And we just.
[00:48:11] Speaker A: I never.
[00:48:11] Speaker B: They're still there. I got the. I remember I have the original and one mixtape with Ray Frost and skip it to my Lou.
[00:48:20] Speaker A: I wish I had. We all got that in high school for the basketball team because our. That year we were sponsored by an one one, bro.
[00:48:28] Speaker B: I can. I can send it. I don't know what you're gonna play it on, but I can send it
[00:48:31] Speaker A: to you if you want it.
I remember the soundtrack. Correct. They had a corrupt song on there. Yes.
[00:48:41] Speaker B: CNN is on there, too. Noriega and Capone.
[00:48:43] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:48:44] Speaker B: Produced by Premiere.
[00:48:46] Speaker A: That soundtrack for that. For that. For that mixtape. Phenomenal. Phenomenal. You crazy what we had.
[00:48:55] Speaker B: I couldn't believe that watching a 14, 15 year old skip to my lou was doing half the stuff he was
[00:49:01] Speaker A: doing on the basketball court effortlessly. Like, what?
What? Skip to my Lou. Y' all don't know. Y' all wasn't there. Y' all wasn't there. Y' all wasn't even there for hot sauce. But y' all wasn't there.
Y' all wasn't there.
[00:49:14] Speaker B: Hot Sauce to Professor escalade.
[00:49:16] Speaker A: Hey, thank you, 12 Ali Mo. Thank you. Cause rest in peace.
Oh, my God. I would have loved to see him get to the league. Oh, I would have loved to see Alamo get to the league.
My God. But thank you, because now I'm about to do. I'm about to go down a rabbit hole.
I'm about to go down a rabbit hole, man. I'm about to go watch all those M ones. I'm gonna figure it out.
I'm gonna figure it out. I'm gonna figure out. Like I said, if you.
[00:49:41] Speaker B: If you want to tape, I can send you Mine, because I, I absolutely have nothing to watch it on. It's just in there collecting dust, bro.
[00:49:48] Speaker A: I remember that tape we had. I remember the box and everything. That crazy. Thank you for the unlocking that memory right there.
Because I was like. When I was saying that we was going up to parks and playing in the middle of the night at. In dangerous parks. We were talking about the M1 era where it was hot sauce and main event.
[00:50:10] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:50:11] Speaker A: Half man, half a man, half man, half amazing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Even though like we watched all of them, we grew up, up with all of them. But we, we, we, we just followed that. And one was big bro from the shirt. I got a. And one tattoo. I got an one tattoo.
[00:50:27] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:50:27] Speaker A: Yeah, wow. Yeah, I was, I was invested crazy. Yeah.
[00:50:31] Speaker B: I mean, but it was, it was the brand of the street, you know what I'm saying? Like, Nike had their. And don't get me wrong, Nike. I don't even know if an one ever threatened Nike or Adidas or whatever it was.
[00:50:43] Speaker A: It was.
[00:50:45] Speaker B: But it was crazy. But it was the street and it was hoops. They were strictly about hoops. That was it.
[00:50:50] Speaker A: Yup. Strictly about hoops. And they cleaned up and they cleaned up with the merch with them shirts. That was, you know, with the trash talking. Yeah, classic, man. Now the shoes, we bought the shoes just off the strength.
They not the best looking shoes. They had a couple that I was like, okay. And we even got sponsored one season for one of them. But most of them I didn't really care for. But we wore them based off the popularity, you know what I'm saying? Jordans was still Jordans. Okay.
Jordan has been number one and one A, one B I would say next to. I know Penny catalog is up there. Charles Barkley. And then they had the air Maxes, air forces dunks.
Eventually they. He got some competitors. But Jordan has been. Jordan shoes has been consistent. Like it's still a popular. They, they still doing raffles for them now, you know, and these kids that's buying and wearing them and they actually messing up the. They actually messed up the sneaker game. They have no knowledge of who Michael Jordan was, why the shoe was even important, what he did in those shoes. And they could. And they've created so many different colorways, which I'm not mad at. But they didn't do it. They didn't do it for the love of the game. They did it for the customers for the show. Yeah, yeah, but. Yeah, but the J's was, you know, that was it, but the N one had, they had a moment. They had a moment where they was a force and it made kids, even the ones that was getting in trouble. Yo, I could possibly make the N1 team. That was the thing. If you wouldn't go to the league, if you made the and one team, you was a rock star.
[00:52:29] Speaker B: Yeah, especially if they came to your town, you got a chance to play against them.
[00:52:32] Speaker A: It was so many other things at birth that, because I don't know if you remember. Battleground.
Yeah, Battleground. I, I, I, I participated in, in, in that tournament in the battlegrounds.
[00:52:44] Speaker B: Say words.
[00:52:45] Speaker A: We had to go to certain parks in different cities from Carson to Compton. I played in Carson and Compton. I think the championship was at Venice Beach. You get into a, a limousine and I, I forgot how much, I forgot how much money it was.
But yeah, we was playing in parks and Culver City, all over. And you got, every weekend you go from one. You had BC list celebrities. You had a couple of pro players that was on the bench and a couple of college players and they were judges and you would have to play, you have to play a game and they would judge you individually, you know what I'm saying? And you will move on to the next round and the next round will be at this park and the next round will be at this park. And it'd be at this park. And then it went all the way to where you make the team. And then you compete against another team for the city and you'll be the battlegrounds of la. And then you were supposed to go off and play against the other top cities. So I made it to like the third round. Started off in Carson, then went to Compton and then we went to Culver City. And if you know your, if you know your way around la, you just getting closer and closer to that water. But I didn't make it out of Culver. I didn't make it out the of, of C. It was either. I didn't, it was, I, I made it to the third round, but I might be getting cars, Covert City and Compton mixed up.
But I just remember, I don't think I made it out of Compton. I don't think I made it out of Compton. And then that was it. And yeah, and you got, you won money, you got Battleground shoes, you got merch. Now you was on TV for a little bit, you know what I mean? So, yeah, take me back, man. Take me back. Shout out to an one. Y' all was there. I was there. Yeah, y' all did that all right, 12 cow. Appreciate you coming out.
[00:54:30] Speaker B: Always, brother. Always.
[00:54:32] Speaker A: You let them know. You don't let them know where. Where the estate is at. They don't even know all that.
But just let them know where they could follow you so they can see all the riches.
[00:54:41] Speaker B: Oh, man. Listen, it's in an undisclosed location in Atlanta, Georgia.
Hey, as always, man, good. Always good coming over here, chopping it up, man. Y' all guys can check me out.
I have two podcasts, the 12 Kyle podcast, where you're going to get a little bit of everything.
You can find that on all streaming platforms, as well as YouTube if you want to watch the videos. And then I have my personal podcast that deals with music, and it's called the Rap Soul podcast. Both podcasts come out weekly. Again, you can find them both on streaming as well as Spotify and. And YouTube as well to. To watch. So, yeah, definitely. Check me out.
[00:55:21] Speaker A: 5,005 Jews. And we got another remix. We got another remix. Either it has came out already or is about to come out. And he definitely had a show where somebody had to get up for somebody to say that she had one of those tables. You know what I mean?
Now me and Brady had to go do the remix. We had to go do our locks thing. Our Jada and Styles peed back and forth. And let me tell you, we have something to say. Okay, there it is.
[00:55:51] Speaker B: Can't wait.
[00:55:52] Speaker A: Yeah, can't wait.
[00:55:54] Speaker B: Check it out.
[00:55:54] Speaker A: 12 cow, I appreciate you from coming out. We got to do this again for show.
And let's put that box away. Let's put that box away. Until next time.
[00:56:04] Speaker B: I got to see that tape done.